If pressed to name the greatest contribution that the Irish have made to civilization, I suspect that Guinness, a beer first brewed in 1755 in the heart of Dublin by Arthur Guinness, might be the first thing to pop into many people's minds. Others might mention the Book of Kells, or perhaps more recent books by authors such as George Bernard Shaw, William Butler Yeats, Samuel Beckett, and Seamus Heaney. Anyone that brought up potatoes or corned beef, however, might be surprised to learn that potatoes are native to the Americas and corned beef became an Irish-American staple after immigrant Irish learned of the meat from their Jewish neighbors in New York City. But Thomas Cahill believes that the greatest contribution of the Irish, a hinge or turning point upon which all of civilization has swung, was the preservation of a wide range of Latin texts which might otherwise have been entirely lost when Rome fell, and upon which the Renaissance was founded. He explains how the Irish came to play such a pivotal role in history in his book How the Irish Saved Civilization: The Untold Story of Ireland’s Heroic Role from the Fall of Rome to the Rise of Medieval Europe.
To help the reader first understand exactly what otherwise might have been lost, Cahill devotes a couple of chapters to the fall of the Roman Empire and the traditions and culture that fell with it. His description of how the empire crumbled is brilliant in that it not only explains what happened then, but he compares it to present day phenomena that help the reader connect more viscerally with historic events. And throughout his description of the Romans are comparisons between them and the Celts of the same time period. But Ireland is the one place where the Celts were never subsumed into a larger, invading people group, and it's to these Celts in particular that he turns next.
The Irish were a bit of a wild bunch back in the days of the Roman Empire. (In fact, many would argue that they still are today. Cahill states that Freud once “muttered in exasperation that the Irish were the only people who could not be helped by psychoanalysis....”) Fierce in battle, the Irish were also ruthless in slave taking. Little did they realize that it was one of those slaves they had captured, a teenager by the name of Patricius (Saint Patrick), who would begin the movement of the hinge upon which all of Europe would turn. Though Cahill spills the beans in the very first page of the introduction, explaining just what it was that the Irish did to save civilization, it's the details of the story, which Cahill spends the rest of the book explaining, that make this such a rich and fascinating read.
Juicy tidbits such as the possible origins of the faeries, the tale of the world's first copyright case, and delightful quotes both by and about the Irish, add a delicious flavor to the story that Cahill tells. The nature and culture of the Irish is brought to life through histories, poems, and comparisons with their contemporaries. It wasn't just Patrick who pushed the hinge upon which the world turned, but the blending of the Irish culture with the religion that Patrick brought with him, as well as the Irish love of stories and learning. Though the Vikings first and the English later would make mince meat of Irish culture, pre-Viking Ireland enjoyed a hay day of growth, learning, and influence.
I thoroughly enjoyed this book and would recommend it not only to those with Irish blood, but to all who enjoy a good story that weaves together what might at first appear to be a disparate set of facts in order to create one cohesive and compelling history.
caliscrnwrtr wrote on Aug 8, '07, edited on Aug 8, '07
what i find funny is that whenthe romans showed up in england, the people already living there moved to wales. the welsh then got pushed into southern ireland. the southern irish went to northern ireland. the northern irish (picts) got pushed into scotland and they just killed and/or assimilated the native scots. so, in reality, the scots are irish, the irish are welsh, and the english are fucking roman. ah, british history, thy name is irony!
but this is a great book...fascinating read...i highly recommend (for reasons other than i lived in scotland and studied mediaeval british/french history at st. andrews) How The Scots Invented The Modern World. similar vein, different people...
Since I first noticed that you were doing reviews, this is the first book you've mentioned that I've already read.
Cahill does have an easy, readable style it's true, and I also enjoyed it very much. I think it's still one of my favourite pseudo-history books actually. But you didn't pick up on the bias?
brettsherman wrote on Aug 8, '07, edited on Aug 8, '07
The greatest achievement of the Irish was the ability to spin a great yarn..... :)
As the comment made above "I think it's still one of my favourite pseudo-history books actually. But you didn't pick up on the bias? " points out, it's just a little tounge in cheek. Isn't it?
I myself am thinking of publishing "I am just an "American"! " a wry look at my proposed quest to find a citizen from the Land of the Free who doesn't want claim part nationality from anywhere else. Even if they did have had a great great great great aunt who once visited Poland/Sweden/The British Isles/The Ukraine etc.
From what I could figure, he's an agnostic Irish Catholic poet/writer. Is that the bias you mean?
I thought his critiques of Platonism in Christianity were not only fair, but something that my church struggles with even today. I was a little taken aback by some of the things he said about Augustine, but to be perfectly honest, I don't really know a whole lot about Augustine. (Rob added a great Augustine quote to his email siggy yesterday:
"For without You what am I to myself except my own guide over the precipice?" Augustine, Confessions.)
So I suspect that if I did a little more study on the man, Cahill's most likely right. (It fits time-wise, at least.)
Cahill's description of Patrick seemed to be very literary. He seemed to be willing to associate things with him as long as they sounded like something he'd say. I'd guess Cahill has a literature masters or PhD in which he studied the writings of the early Irish. If he doesn't, then he must read a fair bit of it.
I've got The Gift of the Jews to read next. (Cahill's second book in the series.) I'll be interested to see what angle he approaches them from.
The road I'm trying to take here lies somewhere inbetween yours and brettsherman's, though closer to yours. The title's definitely meant to be slightly ironic and to provoke, but I think the idea that Irish culture did have a huge effect on the emergence of europe out of the dark ages (along with andalusia) is a pretty solid idea.
But consider:
"...and ireland, splendidly isolated in the atlantic.... On this timeless island, one would have come into contact with a culture very like that of the british and continental celts.... experienced a milieu something like such pre-roman cultures as Homeric Greece, The India of Mahabharata, and Sumer, with their common equippage of warhorses and warrior chariots and their common standards of heroic action" --pg82
We're talking about a culture that never once united under a single king, here. We're talking about (relative to europe at the time) very well educated cattle theives with fractious anarchic politics. To compare it to Homeric Grece, Meg, is at the very least somewhat romantic. And this is the tone he takes on pretty much every single page; I opened the book at random to make this quote.
And that's the kinda thing I'm talking about. Oh by the way, the Aquinas stuff was pretty much dead on in terms of factual description. (and here, strangely, I don't mind his interpretation of those fact, since the picture he paints is pretty much the picture I/my teachers drew when we first studied him.)
i don't think the point of the book was that Ireland's culture helped save (or even build) civilization. the impression that i got was that ireland's culture was the perfect soil for the plant to grow -- the plant being the copying of the ancient tests and the later dissemination of them throughout europe. the hinge was the copying and dissemination of ancient texts. it's just that the irish were perfectly positioned (due to culture, patrick and circumstance) to fulfill that hinge.
Sounds like a Deep Book Meg, thats for sure. But My first North American ancestor was born in 1761 and his parents were of Irish Decent. Of cource that is my surname only.
quest to find a citizen from the Land of the Free who doesn't want claim part nationality from anywhere else
Well, that was a short quest. I'm a product of Silicon Valley, California, USA. It's my stereotype, my background, my education, my culture, my home, myself. I am a Silicon Valley geek. It says everything about me I want to say, good, bad, and otherwise. I don't want to claim any part of any other culture. I do enjoy looking at other cultures from the outside, though. I enjoy eating food from a whole bunch of other nationalities, learning about holidays and customs from other countries, and peeking into their art and entertainment. When the local color around here holds Chinese parades, Japanese festivals, Mexican celebrations, etc., I do go and have fun. However, I don't belong to or claim any part of them. To me, other nationalities are mostly another set of entertaining myths and stories, no more real or part of my background than Middle Earth or Hogwarts. But, I thought this is rather typical of Americans.
This is one of the best series I've ever read on the impact of different civilizations. Cahill started with this book, then covered the Jews and the Greeks as well as writing another book on Christianity.
I have The Gift of the Jews waiting on my bookshelf. I'm borrowing it from a friend and I'm hoping to read it onto a CD for her so she can listen to it while she cleans the house or drives around town.
I also got a free download of the Greek version (I forget the name of the book) from eMusic. (Now I just need to cancel that account before they start charging me a membership fee. eep!)
There is a huge SCOT and IRISH contribution to our country.Immigrants from both countries were seldom happy with English rule prior to immigrating here.Once they arrived they contributed to the drive for Independence.
There is a huge SCOT and IRISH contribution to our country.Immigrants from both countries were seldom happy with English rule prior to immigrating here.Once they arrived they contributed to the drive for Independence.
the book on the scots that i reviewed earlier went into this in a fair bit of detail. the scots were actually on both sides, seeking independence as well as supporting the king. the point of commonality, however, was that no matter which side they were on, they were uniquely instrumental in fighting for their cause.